In Nome, Alaska, miner Roy Glennister and his partner Dextry, financed by saloon entertainer Cherry Malotte, fight to save their gold claim from crooked commissioner Alexander McNamara. To be frank, I think Peel's a bit over-rated--while I appreciate his willingness to touch on issues of race and oppression, I feel his use of metaphor--both in 'Us' and 'Get Out'--is heavy-handed and over-explained. 3 years ago. he focused too much on creating 1:1 metaphors to hit you on the nose with all the specific aspects that are a part and result of systemic oppression. The idea of the whole puppets thing was great but the inconsistency and trash explanation kind of detract from that a bit and leave you feeling like more could have been done. Red was obviously the superior of the two, yet it took all her intelligence and guile simply to achieve a pyrrhic (for her) victory. There's still a lot of great imagery and I can't wait to watch it again sometime. Again, if you really go looking around Reddit (or even Google) you’ll probably find at least one big WandaVision spoiler pretty easily. r/spoilers: Spoil all the endings. Spoiler Protection 2.0 is a Chrome extension (Firefox, too) that was most recently updated this past April and is highly rated (a smidge over 4 stars). You'd still have to control the clone? If a group of mostly mindless failed human experiments emerges from the underground to attack you sharp objects and you didn't know they existed, had no way to know they existed, and in no way benefitted from their existence, I feel like 99% of people are going to be ok with you fighting back and chopping them up with your boat motor. Here, there was a bit of sophomoric awkwardness. Ok in 1986 when the doppelgänger girl choked out Adelaide and dragged her down to the tunnels and handcuffed her to the bed, Adelaide eventually got out of those cuffs so why didn’t she just find her way up those stairs back to the real world? Other moments of the film kind of made these themes less impactful with further thought and in the context of the narrative. Ahh it makes no sense but why they'd keep a failed project alive, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, News & Discussion about Major Motion Pictures, Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Like she was channeling a parody of Christian Bale playing Batman drunk. Spoiler* So it was obvious (to me at least) that Red had been switched and that the character we follow throughout the movie is actually the doppelgänger. With Marlene Dietrich, Randolph Scott, John Wayne, Margaret Lindsay. I mean....) and the dads idiotic and dumb conviction of staying in the house (in general the father comes a cross as dumb). Is it because we as viewers are to get the hint that Adelaide in truth is the doppelgänger? I was so completely enthralled by her performance and thought she did a fantastic job. It lessens the impact of who the Tethered are, what they are doing, and how that reflects on “us” when I’m frustrated with the narrative of the film. If they had left it unexplained then this could be an awful twist of fate, and you could still feel bad for the Tethered. Having films that unconventionally delve into the realities of oppression that POC and others marginalized by society are subjected to and the very real fears that are felt is not only smart writing, but much needed today to convey these feelings and realities to larger audiences. we've all been told and shown a million ways to sunday they sadly exist and have for quite some time. We even get to see the upper middle class Kitty and family get ruthlessly murdered with no exposition, they cry out to their technological masters to help them and Alexa whispers... No! It feels strange to be worrying about spoilers for a movie that was supposed to come out more than a month ago. There's the "we are Americans" line. Close. I'm super late to the discussion but I didn't notice it said anywhere else but all of Red's movements (weird walking and during the end fight scene being superior to Adelaide) were because she was the one who was the really good dancer. Last chance to turn back before we spoil everything in this movie. Cause, fuck everyone else. Welcome! We’re not going to reveal what we think the spoiler is. Us Movie Explained: The Tethered, Hands Across America, Jeremiah 11:11, Rabbits, and Fan Theories ... FULL SPOILERS ahead for Jordan Peele's Us! The following details the ending of the new Pixar/Disney+ movie "Soul," so beware if you haven't watched it yet. But, we are going to recommend you watch two Marvel movies in preparation. A lot of it you could brush away even after considering the normal amount of suspension of belief but at times it's like the movie was insulting my intelligence. Lupita N should get an Oscar nomination for her portrayal as Red/Adelaide. Um, yeah, of course, what's next? I feel like he didn't quite land the combination of commentary, symbolism and entertainment that Get Out delivered. He promises to save Conroy, having saved another man named Mark White. I noticed the first crack in the metaphor. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Based on the ratio of normal families surviving in the movie, 50% probably lived and I would argue higher since there are plenty of people quicker to violence or better with a bat than Gabe, his own kids included. Marvel Reddit Locks Down After Avengers Endgame Spoiler Leaks "We strive to keep this community spoiler-free." It was hard to really appreciate the underlying subject matter of the film when I felt bored watching it. It's refreshing to see a well thought out horror movie that gives attention to the details and elements that make a great film, well, great! The acting was great (especially Lupita), the cinematography was grabbing, and the music was amazing. Official Discussion: The Emoji Movie [SPOILERS] Discussion. Spoiler Protection 2.0. One other thing I haven't seen said much of us how the experiment that failed makes no sense to begin with - what would be the point in creating clones that controlled their originals? The rabbit hole is way below ground but that stairway is just around the corner of where these people just roam around. Adelaide has this eerie smile when we see the last flashback of her in the car listening to Reds parents talking about her. However, to get into it, we're going to have to throw up a SPOILER WARNING for the end of Soul. I wouldn't have been shocked to learn the underground was run by the Umbrella Corporation. I really liked it, but you pretty much hit it spot on with the pacing, and I was also disappointed that some of the themes took so long to develop. I'm going to HHN this coming weekend, and just finished watching the film for the first time! Directed by Ray Enright. She got out and made a life for herself. Captain America Wields Mjolnir. They can kill other Tethered and nothing happens. I'm not a fan of cheesy dialogue and cheap kills--unless its originals like Halloween, Friday the 13th, etc., so this to me was refreshing watch. I recently saw this as well and I was tempted to make main post to discuss some thoughts, but this seems like the better forum. JP is obviously a highly intelligent filmmaker and this movie is no short of symbolisms and metaphors as is his style. Winston Duke as Gabriel "Gabe" Wilson / Abraham, Shahadi Wright Joseph as Zora Wilson / Umbrae, All previous official discussions can be found on r/discussionarchive. If suspense, surprise and satisfying resolutions are the heroes that save a story, spoilers are the villains that try to, well, spoil everything. seen some comments here, and regardless I didn’t care for it as much as others have. I'd wager a large amount of those Tethered to gun owners were killed. And it looked like the stairs leading up and down weren’t that far from where she was cuffed. Most of the time I was having frustrated “yeah, I get it” moments instead of “oh wow, I get it” moments. Which is why she tried to stop Pluto from backing into the fire, she never hurt any doppelganger but her own, etc. To be a metaphor for privilege/systematic oppression, I think there needed to be actual oppression. The promo/cover art give the twist away. One thing I have to say though, Lupita absolutely crushed it. While I was watching the film, I kept thinking that there are so many really good sets that could be used for the Us maze! Spoiler* So it was obvious (to me at least) that Red had been switched and that the character we follow throughout the movie is actually the doppelgänger. I was intrigued. Maybe with some extra science? There's the first exposition by Red about the lives lived by the two girls, the sad story. Very good theories, I highly agree with number one and 3 just watched the film :). 1BR Movie Spoilers and Ending Explained 1BR, the New Horror Movie Trending on Netflix, Is an Apartment Dweller's Nightmare. The only character who really knew about the oppressed, ignored them, and actively oppressed another was, well, Adelaide, and we can agree she's kind of a bitch for it, but she was also tired of rabbit and, either way, 1 is not a Metaphor for the other 299 million plus in the country. I never perceive Adelaide as evil, survival of the fittest. I could understand how the nature of the Tethered worked but, like I said about the pacing, the film didn’t entice me to fully appreciate or internalize these themes. While the spoilers have yet to see the light of day, a vast number of reviews have already been published about the movie. The "we are Americans" line added to it. But only if Red remembers what happened to her...which I’m uncertain if she does or not. I was also confused about why Addie had such a hard time reaching the fireplace poker when she was handcuffed to an easily movable coffee table? Not every question has to be answered but having too little of environmental explanations took me out of the film when I had a lot of questions that I couldn’t just ignore. Given the fact Reds age when the switch happened and the stairway to the world above was just around the corner it surprises me that she never “figured” out how to get out on her own . If you say you have minority friends while looking the other way and benefitting from their oppression, now we're talking about systematic oppression. There's just no way the doubles were actual living humans living under the regular laws of physics. Yes. Poll. “The vast majority of people say ‘yes.’” If you’ve ever gone to considerable lengths to avoid hearing who won the big game, who became the latest dragon snack on “Game of Thron… These are just some thoughts I had that I feel made me confused and frustrated with the film overall. My biggest issue is when they leave Elizabeth Moss's house and decide to make a run for it down the coast... after traveling through the night they just end up like an hour away at the beach...why didn't they "take the coast" like Adelaide said? I think the biggest plot hole for me was not explaining how Red became who she was. James Bond: No Time to Die plot spoilers have supposedly been revealed. Just watched. A dedicated community for discussion around leaks, spoilers, and news relating to the MCU (Marvel Cinematic Universe), Marvel Television, Marvel Fox, and Marvel Sony entertainment releases. Why are the doppelgängers portrayed as evil? By Mat Elfring on April 23, 2019 at 3:24PM PDT People do focus too much on the how/why and the minutiae, but I think the how/why unraveled the metaphor. I'd be surprised if she doesn't get a nod for this one even though the film had its flaws. I liked this movie a lot...There seems to be a few loose ends that could have been tied together better, but overall, in the context of the horror genre, we don't come across movies with such thoughtfulness as this one often. Because I must have misaed it, but I'm genuinely interested! Cookies help us deliver our Services. I felt that the science fiction/supernatural concepts in the film were interesting and definitely eerie, however I think with a little more time to refine some of the details about the doppelgängers it would’ve made the film stronger. 3 Shares Watch out! It cannot be a government facility as running it would take a huge amount or not only resources and energy but personnel. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. First of all, I want to preface that I really enjoyed Get Out. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. he's not saying anything novel and the way in which he says it doesn't work. Is he saying the underclass is the real America? I just watched “Us” last night. That being said, at times the themes felt disconnected to me. There are 3 main reasons to think of the film as a metaphor for privilege/systematic oppression/"how the other half lives" etc. But the originals controlling the clones as a "backfire" ??? Who cares that you have trauma or repressed guilt or self-consciousness when it causes another pain? I don’t get why Red didn’t just go back outside once she got uncuffed. The beginning and end was strong however the mid section of the movie in my opinion has some really weak dialog and story arc....my “favorites” being the daughter arguing with the mom to drive (really?! Why? The best narrative twists might be still undercover, but the first articles offer plentiful of information about what viewers should expect. Getting through the first exposition, I was onboard with the metaphor. Follow the established reddiquette and community guidelines, Follow any additional community guidelines established by the mods, Toys, merchandise, and promotional materials must contain a leak or spoiler, Properly source your content, linking to the original source when possible, No Theory, Prediction, and Speculation posts, Press J to jump to the feed. Writer/director Charlie Kaufman explains why. ... help Reddit App Reddit coins Reddit premium Reddit gifts. February 9, 2020 by Hedy Phillips. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t have redeeming qualities. If the message was the random nature of the world, who lives in comfort and who lives in misery, then making the Tethered a mystical other half bound to the Above Ground would have worked better, just my opinion.