The newer solid copper loads from Underwood have all but rendered the hollow point bullet obsolete. luckily there is a huge hill right behind it, Great article on the 45acp… gotta say it’s my favorite auto round… 44mag/special is my go to revolver round … thanks for the review of the ammo & feedback from others. The rimless .45 ACP headspaces on the case mouth, which is a subject that has sparked considerable discussion and debate. I own an original ww2 Colt 1911A1. Please be respectful of others. four That load evolved into a 230-grain bullet moving at 850 fps. The 1911 was designed to shoot hard ball so that is what I’ve stuck to for all these years. and D.R.T. Let’s look at five good loads because best is a relative term. 06-22-2009, 07:21 PM #2. 45 ACP AUTO AMMO 45 ammunition for sale 45 ammunition for sale with free shipping on bulk ammunition orders available only at Target Sports USA. The Gold Dot Generation 2 penetrated 18 inches and expanded from .79 to .81 inch. 3m! A heavier grain bullet will have more power behind it, but may also create more recoil when fired. We want you, our readers, to be able to make informed decisions. 150gr Terminal Shock ammo. In other words, loads (including factory loads) containing flatpoint or hollowpoint bullets often do not feed reliably. The ammunition must be up to the task as well. Available in a 50 round box, this made in USA full metal jacket cartridge delivers 890 fps of muzzle velocity and runs clean through the bore, resulting in consistent accuracy from the first round … Some dies with crimped, countersunk carbide inserts can fail to properly size .45 Auto cases, which may lead to chambering difficulties. Now bears and jaguars. There is no question that the 45ACP is a superb defensive and tactical load. The .45 Colt, and later the .45 ACP, offered real power without excess recoil. that I may encounter out there. The load is very accurate but a little hot. Even if a particular model is suitable for +P loads, be certain that the correct (pound-rated) springs are installed and are fresh or not worn out. After the 1986 “Miami Massacre” occurred, the FBI determined the 10mm to be, by far, the superior tactical cartridge for its agents!! I picked up an EAA TANFOGLIO Hunter Elite with a 14rd magazine (bought 5sp mags) and a six inch barrel. Search Results for: "45 acp ammo" Sportsmans Essentials Lot of UMC, Remington and Hansen 45 ACP Ammunition (200 Rounds) $34.99 ($0.17 / round) America's Ultimate Shooting Sports Discounter, Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window). The .45 ACP (right) was developed at the request of the U.S. military and produced similar performance to military .45 Colt (left) loads. ... A 200 gr bullet at 800 fps only generates 284 ft lbs, so that would be considered a light target load. Bullet selection for the .45 ACP is broad and includes jacketed, plated, hard cast, swaged lead and even expanding solid copper. Several hundred rounds were loaded before the error was caught. This load was also tested in the GLOCK 21 with good results. Discussion Starter • #1 • Jul 7, 2006. In .45 caliber ammo, you can get grains of 165, 185, or 230. Convenient, accurate, and easy-to-use, this chamber is well rounded when paired with a laser dot to show you exactly where your shot will land. For my Singer .45ACP, I use .460 Rowland’s and for my 9mm I use 960 Rowland’s…. I’m pretty sure 4.3 grains of bullseye is right in the middle of the range for 45 ACP, so there’s potential there too, but I haven’t messed with it. Very stout recoil and not for the novice shooter, which I am not. The cavalry was an immensely important and influential department of the Army when the 1911 and the .45 ACP cartridge were being developed. To develop the accompanying .45 ACP  loads, I used a Wilson Combat Model 1911 Protector, which is of top-notch quality and design. The Thompson-LaGarde tests conducted during 1904 further proved the advantages associated with a .45-caliber handgun, so the army and cavalry specified that their new pistol would be .45 caliber. Loads too light to work the slide on a semiauto work just fine in a sixgun cylinder, and loads can also be assembled longer than a magazine will accept and shorter … Exsoldier I did some research and was wondering if a 460 Rowland will feed in a Colt officers or Defenders .45Acp. The primary focus of this article is standard-pressure loads; however, a few +P loads are included and are marked accordingly. It would be nice to see any ballistic comparison with the current loads you mention. Its accuracy guarantee is one inch at 25 yards, which this gun has proven capable of, making it a great option for testing loads. This will result in improved accuracy and prevents case and bullet damage that usually occurs when bullet seating and crimping are attempted as a single step. I have checked velocity changes associated with different primer brands, and standard versus magnum. The lightweight, high-velocity ARX produce more energy than most, but as a backup I also have the Speer Gold Dot and Federal HST.  =  The Speer Gold Dot Generation 2 +P breaks 916 fps from a five-inch 1911 and 870 fps from the four-inch barrel Springfield Champion Operator. By dropping the standard weight slightly to 220-grains, Hornady has managed to combine standard recoil with high velocity. Now, being fully retired and living in East Tennessee, when I stay in town I tend to pocket carry a Sig P365 9mm but when I must traverse the Appalachian Mountains I’m ALWAYS armed with a 45 auto. Some argue (and they are correct) that cases shorter than industry specification of .888 inch will still function and fire in most autoloading pistols as the extractor holds the case back against the breech face and allows the firing pin to strike the primer. I’ve had remarkable success with the Polymer ARX load in terms of accuracy and relatively low recoil/low flash. Yes, there is considerably more muzzle blast in addition to more recoil and muzzle-flip so yes, more time is absolutely required to be spent behind the weapon for training and practice! That includes Mil spec rounds, low power target loads, hollow points , and lead bullet loads. There is no question the Gold Dot, HST are staples in the LEO profession but I feel there needs to be serious research into this type of round for LEO duty carry. If it really is a singer and has all matching parts it is worth TONS of money and should be babied and never shot. .45 ACP Light Target Loads: Warning! Principal Purpose: Handgun loads Remarks: America's best known pistol powder. You have the penetration of a hard cast projectile and the design creates a wound channel greater than any hollow point. A variety of factory loads were tested for accuracy and velocity as a comparison to the handload data in the accompanying. Did some research and discovered that the 10mm offered all the advantages of the 460 Rowland but less expensive and more available. The new design features a hollow-point cavity filled with an elastomer. For light target to standard loads I go with Bullseye and W231. When I carry my Sig Sauer RCS 1911, that’s all I load. The the design allows for a 114g projectile to be pushed at speeds nearing +p 9mm loads but with a larger projectile. Retailer Updated; 2AWarehouse - 6 Million Rounds Of 9mm In Stock - Shop Now! I’m partial to the .460 Rowland, which has nearly twice the stopping power of the .45acp and works well in virtually every .45acp pistol/handgun…. In this man’s humble opinion, what the FBI determined back in 1986 still holds true today; the 10mm is the superior semi-auto tactical cartridge that provides incredible threat-stopping capability!! Penetration depth is right in the 12-18″ sweet zone, with great expansion on all five rounds, and good velocity for a shorter barrel. I saw that it’s longer and won’t feed. 8.3 gr. and D.R.T., and the overall feel. During those 20+ years, some of the details I accepted were considered to be High Risk and High Threat assignments! Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - #5: 185 gr. This is the future of ammunition. Also I carry a 44 magnum when Trout Fishing in Bear Country but I wouldn’t feel “underarmed” with a 45 auto and the Arx load in Bear Country. You can’t use this in a factory barreled Glock; but Jarvis barrels are just fine and the Mec-Tech loves it. As a defense load, particularly in lighter-weight .45s, this is a good choice. I live in rural SE Alaska lots of Bears around, what bullet would you recommend ? Alternates include an EAA Tanfoglio Witness Hunter Elite in 10mm with a 14 rd magazine. A standard Gold Dot loading may be preferred at about 840 fps in a Commander-size pistol. A 155 grain 10mm Gold Dot hollow point loading by Underwood Ammo provides more than 700 ft. pounds of threat-stopping energy at the muzzle in addition to velocity that creates an enormous wound channel!! Based on the information above, it is important to apply a taper crimp rather than a roll crimp. The Remington Black Belt is based on the Golden Saber, a proven design. This aids in smooth cartridge feeding, helps keep bullets in place (or prevents deep seating) when cartridges are cycled fast through autoloaders and helps obtain proper powder ignition. 9.2 gr. The 185-grain JHP at 1000 fps hits 185. They are useful for the worst-case scenario and accurate enough for any chore. I like the ARX for its lateral dispersion of rotational energy as well as reduced recoil and flash. IMHO, Your email address will not be published. Why? Thanks for you’re input This can result in blown cases and even damage to guns, shooters or bystanders. The difference can vary. If I want something lighter, I go with a Taurus Tracker 44 magnum in a two inch barrel. His three holed punch midway down the barrel makes the recoil of a vociferous 10mm feel like a 9mm +P. Stay safe! I prefer the standard-velocity load when all is considered, and this one gets the slot among the top five loads. These designs are generally very reliable and feed cartridges with a variety of bullet profiles when loaded to correct specifications. Please click the reload button and complete the captcha once again. But an accurate gun is only one part of the formula. Going to be time to order some more soon. }. Which is all good and well IF you own and/or want a 10mm Pistol, which I don’t, and don’t have any plans to do so in the foreseeable future. However, the velocity specification for “Ball” loads changed over the years and was last listed at 830 fps. Today's .45 ACP factory loads push 230-grain bullets at velocities ranging from the low 800s to the high 800s in fps. has the ammo in stock to feed your .45 ACP firearm. In 1904, Browning and Colt were experimenting with a “.41 caliber pistol and cartridge,” which was probably a .40 caliber due to the barrel groove and bore diameters used for their production revolvers chambered in the .41 Colt and .38-40 Winchester cartridges. While I have always had a “love affair” with the 1911 in both the full size and Commander sized variants, my one complaint has always been and continues to be the limited magazine capacity of the 1911. Felt recoil is modest. A well-tuned .45 ACP Model 1911 can do that. My favorite is a cast 200 grain SWC over 5 grains of Red Dot. As it turned out, these loads are similar in general performance. The popularity of the Model 1911 pistol is also remarkable, with literally dozens of manufacturers offering guns that vary substantially in quality and price. I discovered years ago that a major ammunition factory had produced 10,000 rounds of .45 ACP that was slightly out of its specifications in regard to bullet seating. 745 Posts . A few examples of powders that burn cleanly include Hodgdon Titegroup, CFE Pistol, Alliant Power Pistol, Bullseye, Accurate No. But like you if travelling the .45. The military tested the new pistol and cartridge at length but wanted additional safeties and a heavier bullet. 45 acp target load I'm looking for a mild target load using Unique under a 200 gr lswc. The ammunition was tested for velocity and pressure and was fine in this regard, but it could not be sold through normal sources. It was accurate and gave low extreme spreads; however, the powder used was a poor choice, especially for high-volume shooting. Battering the gun. The .45 ACP is my favorite handgun cartridge. General John T. Thompson was clearly the driving force in the development and ballistic requirements for a “man-stopper” pistol and cartridge. It is affordable, reliable and accurate enough for most uses. Your discussions, feedback and comments are welcome here as long as they are relevant and insightful. The new 135-grain .45 ACP Honey Badger load from Black Hills is a new form of hardball. My personal favorite brand (Federal HST) and what I use in m… N310 loads using a jacketed 185-grain bullet for the.45 ACP cartridge are reported by Dorman to have been published in earlier editions of the Vihtavuori manuals. The .45 is a good cartridge, but if you do not practice, build skills and use good tactics, no firearm will save you. The history of the.45 ACP (aka.45 Auto) really began with the.45 Colt during the early 1870s, which was adopted by the U.S. military … To ensure my 45 ACP loads would qualify on chronographs used by the various clubs on the competition circuit, I hedged my bet by loading the 200-grain bullet to a power factor of 180, which required a velocity of 900 fps. For example, one of Federal’s most respected loads for the .45 ACP is the 230-grain HST. Current industry maximum average pressure is established at 21,000 psi, while maximum for +P loads is 23,000 psi. Since the penetration is an average of 14″, this round would likely be fine (no over-penetration) in longer barrels as well. Cheaper Than Dirt! Probably the most accurate 45 ACP load I've ever shot. The.45 is a good cartridge, but if you do not practice, build skills and use good tactics, no firearm will save you. Get back on target faster without wasting any of your precious ammo with 45 ACP Ammunition. I'm currently shooting a Kimber Eclipse Target II in 45 ACP for bullseye target competition. I carry a Glock 21 in both 45 cap and 400 Corbin (a Jarvis barreled conversion I made – and yes it functions reliably) and Mac-Tech in 45 Super (though the brass is impossible to find). to be used in rifles or carbines, try near-maximum loads and a slower-burning powder that yields the highest velocity with a given bullet. The leading water jugs were blown off the table. Reasons include bullet design and seating depth that can change powder capacity, bullet material that can change pressures and velocities, bullet diameter variances, or in regard to swaged lead bullets, they are not designed for higher velocities which can result in barrel leading and poor accuracy. Its widespread use among U.S. shooters is remarkable, and as a result it often ranks as the most reloaded pistol cartridge, based on annual die sales. The Gold Dot is among the most proven personal defense and service loads in history. I, too carry the Polycase Inceptor ARX in both my Springfield Armory mil-spec M1911A1 and my S&W M&P Shield 9. I tested expansion and penetration using water jugs. There is significant reduction of recoil compared to the other rounds I have used for EDC in the past, like the aforementioned Black Talon and Golden Saber. Penetration is 20 inches and expansion .68 inch. Shopping with us is absolutely safe - you never have to worry about credit card safety when shopping here... Share your latest AR build or photos from the range with #RangeDayFriday for a chance to win a new firearm! It expands wide — to almost an inch — but just barely meets the 1-foot penetration threshold. I made a deal and procured it. Unsurpassed for .45 ACP target loads. Cutting Edge Bullets’ 150-grain Raptor- HP gave a velocity of nearly 1,300 fps and provided reliable expansion. It became readily apparent to me that I needed a tactical handgun cartridge that provided both high terminal energy and threat-stopping capability in addition to a higher cartridge count in the magazine! It is noteworthy that by using select powders, +P performance was possible while maintaining standard pressures. And before handloading very many cartridges, be certain bullets are reliably clearing the barrel. And as I’m getting older and my eyes aren’t what they used to be, I have Crimson Trace lasers on both. This load offers modest recoil in comparison to a +P, and has excellent accuracy. I recently examined a Model 1911 that had been damaged because the shooter was loading a large quantity of ammunition on a progressive press, and bullet lube built up inside the seating die, causing bullets to seat more deeply than desired. The .45 ACP has been called the hammer of the century. The Mission of Cheaper Than Dirt! I my water jug tests I have had excellent results with the 200 grain Sig V-Crown JHP load and have made it my eery day carry ammo. High-quality guns feed a variety of bullet profiles without incident. The legend is growing. Please click the reload button and complete the captcha once again. All comments are held for moderation and will appear after approval. Required fields are marked *, Time limit exceeded. 309 (July/August 2017), at the top of page 62, second sentence, the word “only” was mistakenly added to the original text, as was the word “shot” (single-shot) near the bottom of the second to last paragraph on page 67. It was officially adopted for service March 29, 1911. Wolff variable power in government models. I would be hesitant to use the load in a lightweight frame or Officers Model, as there is greater recoil. Bullets should be seated to their listed overall lengths, or pressures can change. out of my thureon defense 16″ carbine my reloads go right through it. I've been using 5.1 grs. At the military’s request, Browning immediately went to work on a new .45-caliber cartridge and pistol. For over 20 years, I worked as an armed private contractor in Las Vegas before moving to the part of the country that I live in now. Sure it isn’t gelatin, but it gives a good comparison between loads. BTW, Factory 1911 recoil springs are 16 pounds in 45 ACP government model. Speer recently improved this formidable loading. A great deal of development went into increasing accuracy potential in the time between the World Wars, eventually giving us superbly accurate handguns. I have a Llama 45 made in Spain it has double stack clips,I’ve had it for several years. Tried this under the pistol forum without any success. IIRC it was on the edge of +P pressures for 38 SPL, but you can check just about any load manual for 125 grain load data and bullseye and see for yourself.